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wow, long thread in such a short notice.


oh yeah, RPG-guy, Elaborate on why you think Bear's wrong instead of just saying "you're wrong, I'm right, you're ignorant, I'm enlightened. Case Closed."

I mean, Come on, those are pretty much the only things that I've seen from you on this topic. [sign in to see URL].

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I really don't know. haha...

This is the best response I can give. (It's gonna be a long [sign in to see URL])

During Jesus ministry on Earth,
the scholars questioned him about
divorce; Jesus said (paraphasing) that God create man and woman to be one flesh. Let them not be separated. It is our stubbornness that divorce was put into the Law. (Matthew 19:4-6)

In the book of Genesis, God look at Adam
and said that a man alone is not good.
So, he create the woman for man and woman to be together.

The conclusion from this [sign in to see URL] straight is not choice, but the only option we got, a command from [sign in to see URL] 'natural'. Also, being gay and bisexual is alternative from heterosexual, outside of Creation and created by man to fulfill their lust. Thus, being gay is unnatural and depends on your choice to be gay or not.

So, is being straight a choice or is it natural. I think being straight is not only natural, but also the best out of the all the options. According to the Bible, from Genesis, the definition of 'natural' in terms of marriage is one man and one woman commit to love each other for the rest of their lives until death due them apart. These couple will join together to become 'one flesh.' When I think of 'one flesh', I believed that, on one hand, the two spirits of the couples become one. On the other hand, oneness can also be expressed physically through sex (LOL). Sex, to me, involves in sexuality and spirituality; not only does it feel goods, it brings the couple closer. Yea!

Couples want to live together and become marry one day. The purpose of relationships and dating is to see if their partner are the ones they want to commit and love for the rest of their lives. Though the heterosexual and homosexual relationship can be fulfilling, the question is: Can same-sex couples have sex to be 'one' without harm?

According to biology, no. In the same-sex relationship, if they have sex, it will increase their chance of illnesses. Think this with me.
    A guy's butt is not the same as the girl's butt. I hope that is true. If opposite-sex couples have anal sex, the girl's butt has a system that gets rid of the sperms. If a man-man have anal sex, how is the guy suppose to get rid of the sperm in his body? His butt doesn't have the parts to properly get rid of it. Thus, I believe that failure to get rid of it will lead to illnesses; this guy is gonna have serious medical issues. (For girl-girl, I don't know how they do anal sex.) People may think sex is just for "fun" or there is many positions for them to enjoy sex, but sex is not just that. It is a special gift for couple to enjoy it without medical risks, humilitating positions, or other booster-sex stuff. If homosexuals can't have sex without getting into these medical risks or sex stuff, there is no way that homosexual marriage is true and their relationship can only have kisses and hugs to be satifying and safe.

"We can use condoms to have protective sex." My response: "Are you gonna use it every time you guys have sex?" (Again, I don't about the lady-lady.)

The Leviticus law have a reason. The Jews can't eat pig becuase if they cook the pig improperly, they are going to die. Rather than risk, God ban it so that no one has to suffer. If homosexual sex is ban because it can't be done right; one dude is happy while the other guy is going to have a terrible time get ridding of it. It is not worth the risk, though some think it is enjoybale.

I guess being straight is the only option to be safe and have the highest satisfication.

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God is good to those all whom he loves. It's easy to fall into prey that we never get marry (that includes me). I want everybody to know that, if you want to be marry, you gonna get marry with the person you like and want to spend with the rest of your life. (Single life is okay too.)
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My head began to hurt after reading that.

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@bambi: you, my friend, have your head on straight.
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quote:

Thus, being gay is unnatural and depends on your choice to be gay or not.


 I'm sorry but I cannot agree with this.
 Being Gay is not something I wanted.
  I dont have any answers to it being 'natural' but it happens across all cultures and continents . If all the gay people on earth were to vanish today there would be more once the next generation reaches the age of sexual awareness. I believe one day medical science will find the 'reason' for alternate sexuality. Personally the thought of a male being intimate with me makes me physically sick.I like men they are great people I have many male friends indeed I feel more comfortable with males as there is no sexual energy present. I can appreciate an attractive man. I have been intimate with men it was not a pleasant [sign in to see URL] was a dark time in my life when I was trying desperately to be not gay it led to me being extremely promiscuous I was trying to run from my feelings but the more sex I had with men the more repulsed I felt within [sign in to see URL] I accepted that I was gay my life totally changed. I started to pull my life together got a stable job stopped sleeping around and started a stable relationship that lasted 8 yrs with my first girlfriend.

Being Gay isnt 'normal' but it has always been a part of humanity .
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I just read your post, ambelinee. That sounds really nasty. I'm glad you've got a stable relationship going, now.

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While I agree with you Ambelinee, that it has always been part of humanity, I disagree about it not being a choice.

We have always enjoyed the freedom of using our minds in our actions - it is what sets us apart from the animal kingdom. We are not just programmed by nature to do acts.

A good example of this is with serial killers. They claim that it was embedded in them - that they had no control over their "sickness".

If you believe and accept that, then they should not be held accountable for their actions. After all, they were "born" that way. In the same reasoning, being gay would fall under this.

I, however, don't believe it. I pick who I am going to like. I decide. I don't let passion guide my path.

If birth determines it, does that mean I was born "straight"? Does it mean those who like necrophiliac or who is zoophiliac are fine?

WE have choices. WE decided who to like. Society and environment help shape our decisions, but they are still OURS.
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Whoa, whoa. Serial killers. That is just unfair, John. It really isn't their fault, and they are locked up to keep others alive, not to be punished. I know what you are trying to say, but saying serial killers is just offensive.

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It wasn't meant to be mean, just one extreme to another.

Saying you were "born" that way is a cop out.

What if you had sanguinarius? does that mean you cannot control the urge to drink blood?

There is also a disease (can't find the name) that basically makes you thirsty all the time (to extremes). It is so bad in some cases, that the individual will drink anything liquid including acid, gasoline, etc.

But even this, is an urge.

Look at me. I am in constant, agonizing pain. I could be on powerful drugs, but I decide to live with it, so I can have my wits.

As Neo once said, "It is all about choice."
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I'd never heard of sanguinarius before now. I suppose if it was overpowering you'd have to. Animal blood, of course. Unless you are really unlucky. Then, it's donated human blood or a padded cell. But to be honest, I wouldn't blame the person, even if he was killing. It would just be a sad, sad incident.

Edit: Unfortunately, if the person believes that they have no choice over their sexual preferences or even their strange tastes, they most often do not. It's what's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. If I truly believe that I am insane enough to want to drink blood or kill people, then I am insane enough to drink blood or kill people.

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